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What sort of rigs y'all using for in the hauler? We just pulled the trigger and will be picking up a Genesis hauler - nothing fancy just a small 9k trailer so we can pack up and play somewhere for more than 3-4 hours. Was looking at an XLR micro boost - but they've been in high demand and my local dealer doesn't know when they'll get their order in. I have e-Track presently in my 14' utility trailer that I freaking love, takes less than 10 minutes to load/unload. Need to see where the frame rails run in relation to the Commander - hopefully somewhat close.
 

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I never used the tie downs in my '08 Keystone Energy 260FS because they didn't go to the frame, just into the plywood base. Yeah, big "no" to using it after we had a friend tear out the tie down rings from the floor on their toy hauler.

For my 6x10 trailer to day trip, I used four of the 3k ratchet straps. Two of them on the rear using the top shock mount, and then using a clevis/D-ring on the front to tie down the front end. We're looking to upgrade to a 22-24 footer in case we want to take both the Commander and our new to us OG Mav XDS.

The next toy hauler we get will have frame attached tie downs, so something better than something stuck in holes in the plywood.



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When only option is a Plywood deck, make 1/4" thk. X 6" square plates drilled for the tu down pattern and install like huge washer under floor, should not pull out or damage the floor with a 2,000 pound ride, do same with "E" track bot can use smaller plates.
 

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I have the Genesis 19SS. Tie-downs have been sufficient anchor, but front locations have poor spacing. I haven't developed a fool proof method for strap attachment that will withstand a washboard road without loosening. Thinking of trying wheel bonnets, but will somehow have to secure them either front or rear of tire.
 

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I have a stealth toyhauler and I use military cargo ratchet straps that have to snaphooks on them. I run an X pattern going from the rear hitch to the front hooks in the floor and then I put axle wraps around the front a arms and cross to the back hooks at the rear door. Tighten everything down and the commander becomes part of the trailer. Had a couple friends have their RZRs get loose with the hook style ratchet straps and one of them had the exhaust wear a hole in their rear door and the other one had their RZR go through their sliding glass door.

 

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BluMtn, sounds like a great setup. I use the snap hook ratchets also, albeit too short for what you're suggesting. I'm sure I can figure something out to make the distance. My other issue is access while the toy in in place. Envisioning that if I lay the straps out on the hauler floor prior to loading the Mander, it would be pretty doable.
 

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Thanks all for the suggestions!

These last few weeks have been crazy for me - I haven't had much downtime from work to do a whole lotta anything - curse & blessing of being in the career I'm in.

We ended up picking up a Genesis 24FS and Oldernie nailed it -- tiedown locations suck. I'll be using the reverse X pattern and go from there. I checked out underneath - all points are into the frame so shouldn't have any problem with them coming out.

Now if I can just get a weekend I can carve out to head out and enjoy ourselves....
 

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Blahhhhhh.

Loaded Lucifer up today...yeah the tie downs REALLLY suck. Need to get some longer straps to even get close to a under belly X formation.

First attempt - bottomed out trying to crest the lip. Left some nice scratches in the paint on the top of the ramp (bottom door frame). Put some ATV ramps down to help lessen the angle - still got stuck. Damn skid plate tore off and kept getting caught.

3" SuperATV lift and FactoryUTV skid ordered -- I'll have to address my loading/unloading locations to avoid this in the future..

 

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Don’t x the straps pull fronts forward and rear rearward. If you x them and a strap comes loose the other strap will pull it toward the wall. Then you will be jacking it up to move it over to get it back out the door. Lol don’t ask me how I know this .
 

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My straps are military cargo straps with snap hooks on both ends. If they come loose, which in four years of hauling our SxS in our toyhauler over some pretty bumpy roads they never have, those straps are going to be the least of your concerns.


These are similar to what I have.
 

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I got these from Cabela - Cabela's Tire Tite System : Cabela's
I have two sets for all four wheels, but for a long time I had only one set installed and never had an issue.
I installed the chocks on an aluminum plate, one for each wheel and bolt the plate to the trailer deck. This way if I need to remove the chocks I just remove the four plates instead having to remove all of the wheel chock bolts. I attach the plate to the trailer with 6 bolts on each plate.
 

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I've been out three or four times loaded up - this last trip was 12 miles on a STUPID washboard road (imagine Tokyo Drifting a 3/4 ton truck and 30' camper). I have some 2" 1500lb straps I use (front to rear, rear to front pull) with crossing the straps (not drastic crossing). Pulled over before I jumped on the highway to check the loads and the kitchen drawers were open, dishes were all over the camper, lost 8 beers from teh cooler and the top bunk's contents were on top of the Commander, which didn't move an inch. All straps were BOINNNNG tight.

I wanted to do some e-Track or similar, but the two trips down this road - I'm happy with the tie downs now. Trial & error process - ended up hooking up the straps BEFORE pulling in makes it a heck of a lot easier to tie down too.
 
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