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post #1 of 26 Old 12-09-2012, 04:02 PM Thread Starter
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Factory tie rod end bolt loosening

On my 2012 1000x the tie rod end bolts kept loosening. Finally one broke causing the cv boot to rip. I lost all steering while moving pretty fast.
Has anyone else had this problem? BRP declined repair based on what they said is "something they have never seen". I will be replacing the cv joint and tie rods with aftermarket and would appreciate a recommendation on which is best product. I also want to go after BRP and the worthless aftermarket service contract I was sold from Freedom Powersports in Cumming GA.
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Which end of your tie rod comes loose? How about some photos?

Unless there are some other facts...... like abuse, your claim seems valid and I wouldn't take no for an answer.

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My 2012 tierod bolt came loose outer right hand side noticed machine steering funny and caught it.dealer replaced bolt on warranty
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Which end of your tie rod comes loose? How about some photos?

Unless there are some other facts...... like abuse, your claim seems valid and I wouldn't take no for an answer.

The tie rod end bolt is loosening. The bolt finally broke while i was riding the trails at Brimstone. I never found the bolt so there's nothing to take a picture of.
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My 2012 tierod bolt came loose outer right hand side noticed machine steering funny and caught it.dealer replaced bolt on warranty
Your situation could be very helpful to me and my claim. Could you give me some information like a claim number and dealer etc. ?
Just to remind everyone, the bolts continue to back off on both sides and will eventually break because the knuckle and tie rod act as a sissor when loose so a good bump in the road will shear the bolt in two. I am going aftermarket but want BRP to acknowledge and take responsibility and pay for or at least supplement the cost of making my vehicle safe. Knowing that I will lose steering at any given moment because of an inferior design defect takes the enjoyment out of the product.
Please, anyone else with similar situation let me know. This could become a recall.
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One day I noticed one of my bolts was slightly loose so I removed it for inspection and reinstalled with loctite thread lock and haven't had anymore problems. I also had a spindle brake on me and that could have been real bad if I was at speed but luckily I ws only going 1 or 2 mph turning around when it broke. A Scary thought to me still to this day that if it had broke at speed I think I'd be 6 feet under!!!
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I just tightened the left side outer bolt last night. Mine has aftermarket Heim joints and uses the same size bolt with a nylon lock nut and was loose enough that it would move about 1/2" in both directions. One thing I noticed when installing them is that the hole in the spindle fills to be about 2mm's bigger in size so with that much clearance I don't think that there is any way that it could stay tight . Going to check the hole size to night and see what can be done with the joint and bolt size to take up the slack. If the bolt has room to move is will rotate and loosen. Just my 2 cents.

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Bobbybo, I have broken 3 passenger side tie rod bolts. The first and last one I was at wind rock. The middle one I was letting a friend use my machine for deer hunting and it came out on him. I have been super lucky and never broken any axles yet. The solution I found was a 3.5" long 3/8" bolt with double nuts. I also use red loctite on them now. If this setup doesn't work I will let you know..... Oh, and all my bolts and washers are grade 8.
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Please, anyone else with similar situation let me know. This could become a recall.
Exact same thing happen to someone else here last year....you could easily search out that thread for reference.....kind of a common issue


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Just ordered a Tie Rod upgrade from Turnkey UTV:

http://www.turnkeyutv.com/turnkey-pa...category_id=39



Comes with everything you need, including the tool to remove your OEM rods and you'll never have to worry about them ever again.

When you pay this kind of money for a machine, you shouldn't have to worry about stupid things like this, but there it is. Oh and guess what, BRP doesn't sell a tie rod replacement, even if you wanted to buy it. You have to buy the rack! Almost $600 + tax and installation and you still have a piece of crap tie rod.

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